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 Post subject: Hinoki,from garden.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:25 pm 
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This Hinoki was gifted to me as a freshly dug tree mid-summer 1999.
It measured 3ft/1m tall and wide.
Fortunatley it recovered and in the autum of 2000 i did the first styling.
It is one of those trees that just sit on the benches slowly filling out.
I think it is now time to decide on it's future and would welcome any thoughts.
I have only re-wired some branches since the initial styling to try and give some depth.
It now stands 32"/81cm tall.

Peter.


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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:57 pm 
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Peter,
If this can help you, this is my vision of your tree. On the top, you can choose between having a jin or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:04 pm 
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Thanks for the advice.
Mike, I have tried a virtual of what i think is your choice. What do you think ?.
Marinko, I also like your option keeping the second tree. My only concern would be chopping the trunk at this height. It is still 2.5cm thick so would require some carving to loose the chop.I'm not sure if a apical jin would work with this design.
What is interesting are the two totally different design options.
I had always seen this tree as a tall one similar to Mike's suggestion but now i have to think again.

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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:07 pm 
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Robert, thank you for the input and the excellent virtual.
Once again you have shown that the simple things work. By turning the tree slightly you have given more depth and made the smaller tree look more natural. Also you retained the full height which i am very pleased with as i think this looks an older image.
It's funny, i always advise fellow growers to look at their trees from all angles and now i have been given a lesson myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
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Thanks Peter...

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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:51 pm 
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I am posting a photo of the tree turned as Robert suggested to show that this would work.
The branches just need to be adjusted a little.
I think this show how powerful a tool the computer can be in the right hands.

This virtual could be the making of this otherwise ordinary tree so we all need to be aware when others offer a considered option on our designs.

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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
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How do you fertilize this Peter, the health is great.


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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:34 pm 
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I use a variety of different feeds throughout the year.
I have always used liquid feeds as i think you have more control.
Spring starts with a gentle Fish Emulsion 5-2-2 then a couple of months with an Ericaceous feed 6-3-6 before switching back to the Fish Emulsion.
I finish of in the autumn with a 0-10-10.
I also use some trace elements just vary the choice.
This combination seems to work for me most of the time apart from this year with all the rain we have had.

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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
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Thanks Peter, one more....how do you keep the foliage so close to the trunk, I do not have much experience with this species and I am having a hard time keeping the foliage at anywhere but the end of branches.....



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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:05 pm 
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Hi Peter
Question prompted be idle curiosity. Is this Hinoki a regular chamaecyparis obtusa, or a special cultivar? Could you show a closeup of the foliage?
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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
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Mike, as far as i know this the plain obtusa. It has bright green new growth and the silvery underside typical of obtusa.
Please let me know what you think.

Will, The foliage was pruned back to the trunk when first styled and has stayed there without much pruning. Just an occasonal pinching.

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 Post subject: Re: Hinoki,from garden.
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I believe this cultivar to be a "Gracilis" which grow more upright than the other obtusa cultivars.

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